November (Q1) 2023

[ZO]

If they go by the rules as written, based off the ERR demand sheet these places have more open slots than eligible to transfer folks (theoretically a guarantee barring any dynamic decisions or staffing changes):

A11 A80 C90 CPS DSM FAI FRG FSM GRB GTF HCF HUF MLI ORF PHL POC PTK RVS SBN SCT SJC SNA TOL Y90 ZMP ZNY ZOA ZSU

All have a round 1 gain greater or equal to the number of releasable ERRs.

I wouldn't say theoretical guarantee. Gotta factor in facility priority. Releasable facility may not be releasable after a selection from a higher priority facility.

 

[Papacharlie327]

If they go by the rules as written, based off the ERR demand sheet these places have more open slots than eligible to transfer folks (theoretically a guarantee barring any dynamic decisions or staffing changes):

A11 A80 C90 CPS DSM FAI FRG FSM GRB GTF HCF HUF MLI ORF PHL POC PTK RVS SBN SCT SJC SNA TOL Y90 ZMP ZNY ZOA ZSU

All have a round 1 gain greater or equal to the number of releasable ERRs.

It’s incredibly ironic that Guam would have return rights and San Juan center wouldn’t. Those guys and gals are stuck down there and the union has done nothing to help them. What a hole to be stuck in.

 

[TermLimits]

I wouldn't say theoretical guarantee. Gotta factor in facility priority. Releasable facility may not be releasable after a selection from a higher priority facility.

Right that’s one of the things I wrap into staffing changes

 

[Acquired Taste]

It’s incredibly ironic that Guam would have return rights and San Juan center wouldn’t. Those guys and gals are stuck down there and the union has done nothing to help them. What a hole to be stuck in.

Pretty sure ZSU is getting 804'd into ZMA and RSW

 

[EastCoastToast]

MIA can pick up 15 with 16 releasable on file. Looks like I'm heading to MIA.

Doubt they will pick up all 15. They usually do 1-5 at a time. Also they probably won’t care if you have a Radar Ticket. They’ve picked up low lvl tower only folks in the past. Don’t get your hopes up and try not to read into it too much because it’s a lottery system.

 

[wrench978]

Pretty sure ZSU is getting 804'd into ZMA and RSW

Currently on hold. The secretary of Treasury “non-concurred” with the proposal. If I understand correctly, some of the numbers, especially relating to the number of controllers who would be moved, were incorrect.

 

[Eagle1Fox2]

On this next panel what limit can a facility pick up too? Gains to projected national average or 100%?

 

[TermLimits]

On this next panel what limit can a facility pick up too? Gains to projected national average or 100%?

Round 1: National Average
Round 2: 8-12s up to 90% projected

 

[Bama]

Has NATCA changed any numbers on the PPT yet like last time?

 

[Move78]

Has NATCA changed any numbers on the PPT yet like last time?

Tons

 

[ChuckNovember]

Rules and Modifications to the board:
Round 1
· Releasing facility must be at or above 85% current % CPC to Target (column L of the PPT) and at or above 85% Projected % to Target (column AA of the PPT).
· Releases stop when the facility drops below 85% Current or 85% Projected % to Target.
· Gaining facility must be below the Projected National Average (top of column AA of the PPT)*
· The order of gaining facilities will be based on the most recent decision lens agreement**

Round 2
· Releasing Facility must be ATC Level 4 through Level 7
· Releasing facility must be at or above 85% current % CPC to Target (column L of the PPT) and at or above 85% Projected % to Target (column AA of the PPT)
· Releases stop when the facility drops below 85% Current or 85% Projected % to Target.
· Gaining facility must be ATC Level 8 through Level 12
· Gaining facility must be below 90% Projected % to Target
· Selections stop when gaining facility reaches at or above 90% Projected % to Target
· The order of gaining facilities will be based on the most recent decision lens agreement**
Category Release Dates:
Category 1 Three month release date
· February 12, 2023 (PP5)
Category 2 One Year Release Date
· November 19, 2023 (PP25)

Does this mean that a facility's projected number has to be below the national projected number (86.5%) or that their AOB has to be below the national projected # in round 1?

 

[Acquired Taste]

Does this mean that a facility's projected number has to be below the national projected number (86.5%) or that their AOB has to be below the national projected # in round 1?

Projected has to be below* 86.5% to gain in round 1.

Edited*

 

[ChuckNovember]

Projected has to be before 86.5% to gain in round 1.

***lower than?

thanks

 

[JMan1997]

Any idea when the manager's ranking list will come out?

 

[kombucha23]

Any idea when the manager's ranking list will come out?

Put the FOIA in now

 

[jcdroz2026]

I’m ready to get skipped! How about you?


I’m ready for my FacRep to bashed me with every single facility I applied for.

If you don’t get alone with the current NATCA FacRep, the union won’t fixed the issue and will allow it. There for stay in that facility forever.

 

[Bama]

Vote Democrat or Rich Santa and the union will make dynamic decisions and cancel November (Q1) 2023 NCEPT

 

[Smitty]

Vote Democrat or Rich Santa and the union will make dynamic decisions and cancel November (Q1) 2023 NCEPT

no.

BRACE for the ? wave...

 

[kombucha23]

BRACE for the ? wave...

That time of the month for you again, Smitty? ???

 

[OhG]

Nobody answered me before but I'll give it a shot again: does the panel change facilities releaseability during the panel? As in, if in Round 1, someone is picked up to come to my facility, bringing us above the nat'l avg, would we be releaseable in the 2nd round?