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I’m only 35 miles away jus sayin
I’m only 35 miles away jus sayin
Oh shut up. At least reference the person you’re trying to call out on the sly you arrogant clown. I’ve been to several facilities, seen good and bad prior experience, good and bad CTI, good and bad OTS. Pot meet kettle coming from you who spouts all kinds of inane arrogant bullshit and acts like gods gift to ATC.
Maybe it's a regional thing, I was told by someone in management that some of their performance goals were based of things like OT usage. If they kept it below a certain number or percentage they got a bonus.no they don't. some are absolute jerks about the OT but no they don't bonuses based on that. and same applies to the training initiative. Also, the FACREP is supposed to be involved in this training initiative and have to submit a weekly report collaboratively with the ATM. so if the FACREP is allowing management to cram wasted hours on a trainees then they are just as complicit as the bad manager screwing over the trainees and trainers.
Sounds like it's not directly tied to getting a bonus but they won't get the performance review required to bonus if they don't hit it.Maybe it's a regional thing, I was told by someone in management that some of their performance goals were based of things like OT usage. If they kept it below a certain number or percentage they got a bonus.
Sounds like it's not directly tied to getting a bonus but they won't get the performance review required to bonus if they don't hit it.
FSCJ REPRESENTAs an Eagle Alumni myself I'm embarrassed at the attitudes of some of the CTI kids there. It's truly incredible to me and I don't know if the program itself is to blame or the student themselves, but it is definitely a black eye on a university I loved
35 miles on Long Island might as well be 500 lmao...cum party in the cityI’m only 35 miles away jus sayin
Maybe it's a regional thing, I was told by someone in management that some of their performance goals were based of things like OT usage. If they kept it below a certain number or percentage they got a bonus.
I mean the examples of prior .mil controllers you describe do sound arrogant, but I think there’s some merit to the reason behind why some of them do kinda suck coming into the FAA side.I notice a huge wave of especially these "direct hires" noobs, openly saying things like "I was at Nellis, this place will be easy for me". "I was the go to controller in local at my Air Force Base, we used to have 10+ in the pattern everyday". "I had a center rating working at _____, so this won't be hard".
They have a very entitled attitude and then plug in and suck. And you're like wow, how did this person even ever allegedly talk to aircraft anywhere? They're literally trying hard to kill people while telling you how gold they are in their 3rd month in the agency. Also about where their next* facility will be. Its almost a shocking level of arrogance, ignorance, and untactfulness. It makes me feel contempt for them and people hate them. So its understandable how a theoretically "less busy" facility could still wash out a lot of people. No one wants to put up w that shit. Send humble quiet hard working trainees who get in the books and are open to learning and don't think they be already arrived!
no they don't. some are absolute jerks about the OT but no they don't bonuses based on that. and same applies to the training initiative. Also, the FACREP is supposed to be involved in this training initiative and have to submit a weekly report collaboratively with the ATM. so if the FACREP is allowing management to cram wasted hours on a trainees then they are just as complicit as the bad manager screwing over the trainees and trainers.
This is really good tho. I’m glad they are finally taking training seriously. No reason you can’t train 5 hours a dayAt my facility lately management are forcing trainees to make up hours if they take leave....
Example: trainee took SL one day... The rest of the week they need to train 30 more mins above the goal to make up for the hours missed that day...
Second example... Trainee took an annual leave day that he bid in round 3. They made him make up the time he took to reach the goal (mandate) FacRep here... Did nothing.
Let me add....This is really good tho. I’m glad they are finally taking training seriously. No reason you can’t train 5 hours a day
Where is your Natca training rep to look at what the atm submits for their weekly report on why a trainee didn’t get their hours? There is no reason this should be happening.At my facility lately management are forcing trainees to make up hours if they take leave....
Example: trainee took SL one day... The rest of the week they need to train 30 more mins above the goal to make up for the hours missed that day...
Second example... Trainee took an annual leave day that he bid in round 3. They made him make up the time he took to reach the goal (mandate) FacRep here... Did nothing.
Why aren’t they just on different crews?We have 3 in the radar right now at a 7 up down. The NTI causes such a detriment to trainees on some days because "we need to get 3 hours" so the person with 8 hours so far gets thrown in on the busiest shit show of traffic and the one who needs to get some more bus experience trains at 7 am with no planes. Or an unnecessary split of the sectors to get training accomplished at the same time where it becomes non effective for both at the same time.
Because the FAA is the FAAWhy aren’t they just on different crews?
Sounds like a single facility problem. Then the FAA makes the NTI cus single facilités can’t figure out how to train anyoneBecause the FAA is the FAA
They aren't on the same crew, but when you have 3+, they overlap during shifts. One bid sun/Mon. One bid sat sun/ they placed the third I think Thurs Fri... Either way, the shifts are mismanaged in the sake of the NTI. We had a 90+ success rate with way way way less hours in the same or less time prior. Because we could train them based on where they were and what traffic they needed to see.Sounds like a single facility problem. Then the FAA makes the NTI cus single facilités can’t figure out how to train anyone
It's starts with the local FacRep and I've said stuff over and over again but ?♂️Where is your Natca training rep to look at what the atm submits for their weekly report on why a trainee didn’t get their hours? There is no reason this should be happening.
If they aren’t involved that’s the place to start. The .4 gave them the power to be an equal partner of the training administrator in the building.