Union told me we didn’t pick up because the panel saw the current trainees weren’t receiving enough training hours and so they decided not to allow SCT to receive any new bodies.
May (Q3) 2022
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Top5fatcat
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Ah makes sense. All the boomers and fat cats get paid enough that they don’t need the extra 10%. Sources say the training mandate doesn’t apply when you’re top 5 in seniority!
lol. nice of the NCEPT to solve a facilities systemic probz on the backs of non country club peasants. y dont u guys start washin some ppl out already?
Dynamic_Decisions
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Man, that dynamic decision gets me wet....
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Kind of hard to train with shit staffing and Covid not allowing it. Thanks NCEPT
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Any temporary rules out yet?
wand_waver
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The only thing I’ll believe is dynamic decisions
Cmsgthokage
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Do points matter for ERRs? I would probably have a little for some college, just trying to confirm before faxing them in.
FightingIrish2012
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Don’t matter
Cmsgthokage
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Sweet I’ll leave them blank then.
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Facility Update to SWB: The deadline for facilities to complete their SWB numbers
HR SWB Entries Completed: The deadline for HR to finalize the SWB numbers and port over to the PPT
Facility PPT: The date the PPT used for the panel is released
NCEPT Data Executed: This is when the Facility Priority List (aka, Decision Lens Tool) is generated/released
Periculant
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Did the Southern Region Fax change? I keep getting that it is "Busy"
SlinginJ’s
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No I had the same issue. My ATM called some IT people who supposedly fixed it.
Cmsgthokage
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Paperwork is in, I’m ready to be hurt.. ?
Acquired Taste
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They still haven't released the rules for this panel yet huh?
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They release the rules after the panel.. it makes the whole process very fluid and organic.
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Rules have not been publicly released yet.
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thyey were released a few hours ago on the NATCA page... IDK how to post doc but you can find them there.
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May 2022 NCEPT temporary modifications
Facilities are either designated as “gaining” or “releasing” facilities for each round.
Round 1
• Gaining facility must be below 85% current % CPC to target and below the National projected % to target* (ref. column AA of PPT).
• The order of gaining facilities will be based on the most recent decision lens agreement, processed and posted **.
• Gaining facility Trainee to Total Controller ratio target is less than 30%.
• Releasing facility must be at or above 85% current % CPC to target and at or above 85% projected
% to target.
Facility Selection Cap
Selections for a single facility will not exceed the following Controller Resource Workgroup (CRWG) caps during this panel:
Min Max
• Building greater than 300 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 5
• Building 200 – 299 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 4
• Building 100 – 199 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 3
• Building less than 100 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 2
Exceptions to the Facility Selection Cap
The following facilities may be filled up to a cap of 8:
Min is 1, Max is 8
•A80
•HCF
•MIA
•SCT
•ORD
Round 2:
• Releasing facility must be an ATC-4 through ATC-7 that is currently at or above 100% Current % CPC to Target, and their Projected % to Target is also 100% or above.
• Releases will stop once a facility’s projected staffing average drops below 100%.
• The order of gaining facilities considered will only be from the ATC-8/9 facility with the lowest
projected staffing average and work up the list from there.
• Gaining facilities may be filled until selections reach a projected staffing to target of 100%.
• The gaining facility Trainee to Total Controller ratio target is less than 30%.
The panel reserves the right to address extraordinary circumstances on an as needed basis. (***Dynamic Decisions***)
* Projected National Average percentage will be published in the PPT on 04/27/2022. ** Decision Lens is part of NCEPT data execution on 04/28/2022.
** Current National Average percentage will be published in the PPT on 04/27/2022.
Releases:
Category 1: Release dates shall be within three (3) months of selection (August 28, 2022; PP19), or at the election of the employee no later than six (6) months (November 20, 2022; PP25).
Category 2: Release dates shall be within twelve (12) months (May 28, 2023; PP12) of selection.
NCEPT Timeline:
• Monday, 18 April – ERR submission deadline
• Friday, 22 April – Facility Update to SWB
• Tuesday, 26 April – HR Staffing Workbook entries completed
• Wednesday, 27 April – Facility Priority Placement Tool
• Thursday, 28 April – NCEPT data executed
• Monday, 2 May – HR resume upload begins
• Friday, 6 May – HR resume upload complete
• Monday, 9 May – Manager Ranking List published (Opened)
• Friday, 13 May – Manager Rankings completed (Closed)
• Monday, 16 May – P21 prepares data for NCEPT board
• Tuesday, 17 May – NCEPT convenes/adjourns
Post NCEPT Selection Meeting Timeline:
3rd Quarter (May) NCEPT Selection Dates: • NCEPT meeting adjourns May 17th
TOL sent to employees no later than June 1, 2022 (two weeks) • Clock starts May 22nd 2022
Facilities are either designated as “gaining” or “releasing” facilities for each round.
Round 1
• Gaining facility must be below 85% current % CPC to target and below the National projected % to target* (ref. column AA of PPT).
• The order of gaining facilities will be based on the most recent decision lens agreement, processed and posted **.
• Gaining facility Trainee to Total Controller ratio target is less than 30%.
• Releasing facility must be at or above 85% current % CPC to target and at or above 85% projected
% to target.
Facility Selection Cap
Selections for a single facility will not exceed the following Controller Resource Workgroup (CRWG) caps during this panel:
Min Max
• Building greater than 300 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 5
• Building 200 – 299 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 4
• Building 100 – 199 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 3
• Building less than 100 CRWG Min: 1 Max: 2
Exceptions to the Facility Selection Cap
The following facilities may be filled up to a cap of 8:
Min is 1, Max is 8
•A80
•HCF
•MIA
•SCT
•ORD
Round 2:
• Releasing facility must be an ATC-4 through ATC-7 that is currently at or above 100% Current % CPC to Target, and their Projected % to Target is also 100% or above.
• Releases will stop once a facility’s projected staffing average drops below 100%.
• The order of gaining facilities considered will only be from the ATC-8/9 facility with the lowest
projected staffing average and work up the list from there.
• Gaining facilities may be filled until selections reach a projected staffing to target of 100%.
• The gaining facility Trainee to Total Controller ratio target is less than 30%.
The panel reserves the right to address extraordinary circumstances on an as needed basis. (***Dynamic Decisions***)
* Projected National Average percentage will be published in the PPT on 04/27/2022. ** Decision Lens is part of NCEPT data execution on 04/28/2022.
** Current National Average percentage will be published in the PPT on 04/27/2022.
Releases:
Category 1: Release dates shall be within three (3) months of selection (August 28, 2022; PP19), or at the election of the employee no later than six (6) months (November 20, 2022; PP25).
Category 2: Release dates shall be within twelve (12) months (May 28, 2023; PP12) of selection.
NCEPT Timeline:
• Monday, 18 April – ERR submission deadline
• Friday, 22 April – Facility Update to SWB
• Tuesday, 26 April – HR Staffing Workbook entries completed
• Wednesday, 27 April – Facility Priority Placement Tool
• Thursday, 28 April – NCEPT data executed
• Monday, 2 May – HR resume upload begins
• Friday, 6 May – HR resume upload complete
• Monday, 9 May – Manager Ranking List published (Opened)
• Friday, 13 May – Manager Rankings completed (Closed)
• Monday, 16 May – P21 prepares data for NCEPT board
• Tuesday, 17 May – NCEPT convenes/adjourns
Post NCEPT Selection Meeting Timeline:
3rd Quarter (May) NCEPT Selection Dates: • NCEPT meeting adjourns May 17th
TOL sent to employees no later than June 1, 2022 (two weeks) • Clock starts May 22nd 2022
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