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Cip is listed as a line under the regular earnings. Not baked into the rate
To confirm, you don't get "extra" CIP added to your calculation for Sunday/night pay, correct? And if you worked 88 hours in one pay period would you get 80, 88, or 92 hours' worth of CIP? I assume 88.
 

Typeass

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To confirm, you don't get "extra" CIP added to your calculation for Sunday/night pay, correct? And if you worked 88 hours in one pay period would you get 80, 88, or 92 hours' worth of CIP? I assume 88.
Its just shows as an extra line under your hourly base pay, night, Sunday etc. Its always 80 hours of cip no matter what to my knowledge but i don't work OT. Your annual salary that shows in employees express doesn't include the cip, its just added in every paycheck
 

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Looking to update my pay calculator spreadsheet for 2020/2021, iron out some logic errors, etc. Useful for keeping payroll honest as we continue to run into shutdown season. I'm realizing it would be helpful to break out the pay in line items just like on the LES.

Question to those of you who get CIP/COLA (please answer for either one): is it listed as a line item under Earnings alongside Regular, Holiday-Worked, etc? Or is it baked into the Rate?

CIP is marked as a separate line under "Earnings" with a $/hr rate (CIP % of your Basic hourly pay), for 80 hours whether you've worked overtime, or taken leave, and has been the full 80hrs/check during the EA we've had this year.
 

Heatles305

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When do we start getting paid after the FOL?

During basics? During academy? Once we arrive at facility?

The struggle is real right now.
 

Gavin74

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I am still trying to figure out how my raise will be calculated once (and if!) I certify at my new transfer facility. I have reached out to the HR person who issued my FOL and she said that #2 below is correct. I am not convinced, however, as the experience of others on this website seem to mirror scenario #1. The difference is minimal, but I would still like to know. Thanks in advance to anyone who will share their input.

The pay raise is a total of 6%. Band min/max limits are not a factor in my case.


#1

Basic pay upon reporting to the facility: $92,091
6% pay increase: $92,091 x 0.06 = $5,525
Basic pay after 1/2 of the 6% increase: $92,091 + ($5,525 / 2) = $94,854
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2020: $94,854 x 1.016 = $96,372
Basic pay after 1% Presidential raise in January 2021: $96,372 x 1.01 = $97,336
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2021: $97,336 x 1.016 = $98,893
Basic pay after certification (wishful assumption of August 2021): $98,893 + (5,525 / 2) = $101,656


#2

Basic pay upon reporting to the facility: $92,091
Basic pay after 3% increase: $92,091 x 1.03 = $94,854
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2020: $94,854 x 1.016 = $96,372
Basic pay after 1% Presidential raise in January 2021: $96,372 x 1.01 = $97,336
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2021: $97,336 x 1.016 = $98,893
Basic pay after certification (wishful assumption of August 2021): $98,893 x 1.03 = $101,859
 
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Mike Kilo

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I am still trying to figure out how my raise will be calculated once (and if!) I certify at my new transfer facility. I have reached out to the HR person who issued my FOL and she said that #2 below is correct. I am not convinced, however, as the experience of others on this website seem to mirror scenario #1. The difference is minimal, but I would still like to know. Thanks in advance to anyone who will share their input.

The pay raise is a total of 6%. Band min/max limits are not a factor in my case.


#1

Basic pay upon reporting to the facility: $92,091
6% pay increase: $92,091 x 0.06 = $5,525
Basic pay after 1/2 of the 6% increase: $92,091 + ($5,525 / 2) = $94,854
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2020: $94,854 x 1.016 = $96,372
Basic pay after 1% Presidential raise in January 2021: $96,372 x 1.01 = $97,336
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2021: $97,336 x 1.016 = $98,893
Basic pay after certification (wishful assumption of August 2021): $98,893 + (5,525 / 2) = $101,656


#2

Basic pay upon reporting to the facility: $92,091
Basic pay after 3% increase: $92,091 = $94,854
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2020: $94,854 x 1.016 = $96,372
Basic pay after 1% Presidential raise in January 2021: $96,372 x 1.01 = $97,336
Basic pay after contractual 1.6% pay raise in June 2021: $97,336 x 1.016 = $98,893
Basic pay after certification (wishful assumption of August 2021): $98,893 x 1.03 = $101,859
That’s a complicated way to ask if the final 50% certification raise is 3% of your current pay or the pay you left your old facility at. The answer is #1. Your raise is based on the 6% of your old facility. Figure 6% at the new locality, halve it and you have you first AND final pay raise.
 

Gavin74

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That’s a complicated way to ask if the final 50% certification raise is 3% of your current pay or the pay you left your old facility at.
I agree that it's a seemingly convoluted way to pose that question, however when I worded it in simple terms (similar to how you summed it up) the HR POC responded that it would be 3% of my current pay, i.e. the basic pay at the time of certification.

Because her response goes against everything else I read on this website, I typed up the two scenarios #1 and #2 above and asked her to pick one, just to make sure that I was not misunderstanding her.

To my surprise, she picked #2.
 
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