Small Change to Placement Lists

[Hope]

On January 1, 2024 Offered facilities will not drop off the list. The offered facility list will not shrink on Assignment day if the class size shrinks due to attrition.

Part 2: Volunteer Facility Placements: New Hires after graduation can volunteer themselves to a facility. If approved, students will forego choosing from the list.

List of facilities you can volunteer to:

 

[Move78]

Progress

 

[5600k2]

This is great, and should help a bit with reducing transfers after certification. Just wish I had these options when I went through lol

 

[KiloZulu]

I'm so happy for those going through, this will make a huge difference. I know this first-hand, having seen my dream facility fall of the list.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

A good step in the right direction. One of the best changes for our career this year and shockingly, NATCA had nothing to do with it.

 

[MickWhoopin]

GulfCharlie I wonder what the effect will be on prior experience after seeing this.

 

[TushingPin]

GulfCharlie I wonder what the effect will be on prior experience after seeing this.

Probably none honestly.

 

[TimShady]

Definitely a common sense step in the right direction.

 

[Wisskey Tanggo Fokstrot]

Unless the pass rate of any given class is 100%, does this not create a scenario where truly undesirable facilities will receive 0 new hires?
Example: 15/18 pass. 3 facilities don’t get picked and move to the next list. Next class 12/18 pass, those same 3 facilities don’t get picked. So on and so forth?

 

[22papa]

Unless the pass rate of any given class is 100%, does this not create a scenario where truly undesirable facilities will receive 0 new hires?
Example: 15/18 pass. 3 facilities don’t get picked and move to the next list. Next class, 12/18 pass those same 3 facilities don’t get picked. So on and so forth?

Gonna be picking from everyone’s leftovers

 

[32andBelow]

Unless the pass rate of any given class is 100%, does this not create a scenario where truly undesirable facilities will receive 0 new hires?
Example: 15/18 pass. 3 facilities don’t get picked and move to the next list. Next class, 12/18 pass those same 3 facilities don’t get picked. So on and so forth?

no they slide to the next list and they’ll start putting multiples on the next list. Back in the day it was 2X spot per student on the list and the top 2 were mandatory

 

[Acquired Taste]

I just wish they went further with the places you could volunteer to go to. Like EVV and GCN should probably be on there too amongst others, but it's definitely progress in the placement process.

 

[Wisskey Tanggo Fokstrot]

no they slide to the next list and they’ll start putting multiples on the next list. Back in the day it was 2X spot per student on the list and the top 2 were mandatory

Even then. Say there is a facility ranked 10 and 70 on the priority list. If they are passed over class after class, it would take a while for the second slot to catch up assuming their staffing situation doesn’t change. Even with multiples this could still occur, unless there is a high enough pass rate forcing them to be selected.

 

[22papa]

no they slide to the next list and they’ll start putting multiples on the next list. Back in the day it was 2X spot per student on the list and the top 2 were mandatory

So just keep adding Nantucket until there’s 18 Nantucket spots?

 

[32andBelow]

Even then. Say there is a facility ranked 10 and 70 on the priority list. If they are passed over class after class, it would take a while for the second slot to catch up assuming their staffing situation doesn’t change. Even with multiples this could still occur, unless there is a high enough pass rate forcing them to be selected.

They’ll prolly just make a couple mandatory again

 

[Phillytroll69]

Another huge win for non bue

 

[OpenSkies]

I just wish they went further with the places you could volunteer to go to. Like EVV and GCN should probably be on there too amongst others, but it's definitely progress in the placement process.

EVV is showing 10 trainees and 10 CPCs. Cant have the CPCs outnumbered there’d be a mutiny.

 

[Nothanks]

Another huge win for non bue

Wouldn’t this also help BUE’s at facilities where people end up and then immediately hardship out of ? Or quit?

You’re hoping this new body is your ticket out or extra person for leave slots, and they just waste your time.

It’s also a win for BUE’s and the future BUE’s

Everyone has been bitching about placement, it’s a small step in the right direction

A good step in the right direction. One of the best changes for our career this year and shockingly, NATCA had nothing to do with it.

It literally says “air traffic services and the NATCA bargaining unit”. Did you not take the time to read the post?

 

[Lotz]

As someone who has been waiting 4 years in hiring purgatory coming next month, this is amazing and possibly could make it all worth it as several of the spots on the voluntary list are spots I've been wishing of getting on my list.

 

[Acquired Taste]

EVV is showing 10 trainees and 10 CPCs. Cant have the CPCs outnumbered there’d be a mutiny.

Yeah, I get that but it's like that because EVV is a shit hole no one wants to be at so if someone is willing to volunteer to go there, might as well let them.