August (Q4) 2022

What I've gathered from this is AVP is the place to go if it's on your placement list... They seem to pump out ERRs
In general, AVP seems to be a fairly sought after facility, IMO.
This is going to be AVP's last push to release people for years. With only 2 trainees currently, once they fall back below 85% that's it for them. Training time is 1.7 years and they are absorbing ELM and BGM in early 2024 which I believe should increase their target number by about 8 CPC's. They are barely hanging on to level 6 pay as it is, spending many consecutive months below the buffer in the past few years. The 804 won't be enough to upgrade them, only make them a very solid 6 with a slightly longer training time. Long story short, there are likely better options.
 
This is going to be AVP's last push to release people for years. With only 2 trainees currently, once they fall back below 85% that's it for them. Training time is 1.7 years and they are absorbing ELM and BGM in early 2024 which I believe should increase their target number by about 8 CPC's. They are barely hanging on to level 6 pay as it is, spending many consecutive months below the buffer in the past few years. The 804 won't be enough to upgrade them, only make them a very solid 6 with a slightly longer training time. Long story short, there are likely better options.
 
They knew it was happening as it was going down. The integrity move would have been to stop the panel. They did that before, which is why a panel was postponed bc the faa tried to use rules that weren’t agreed on.

Imagine seeing your name not on the list and how shitty that must feel. Some of those places don’t release much. Putting people through that when it could be avoided is wrong.
It was fixed in 6 days. So as far as the group that was corrected retroactively they just found out a week later. If it wasn’t for NATCA they would’ve been skipped forever. Along with the other 140 in the panel that would have not been allowed to move. There’s still some people out there working on this shit.
 
It’s hard faculty to work at because you have to spoon fed the centers all day long. I heard they are changing the traffic count and they should be 8’s then. They also have a lot of good looking dudes there
 
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It was fixed in 6 days. So as far as the group that was corrected retroactively they just found out a week later. If it wasn’t for NATCA they would’ve been skipped forever. Along with the other 140 in the panel that would have not been allowed to move. There’s still some people out there working on this shit.
it never should have been allowed to happen, and if natca wasn’t about sucking that faa dick they would have let everyone know how the faa was trying to fuck the workforce. But they didn’t, they feel they are above communicating with us worthless dues payers. God forbid we get rightfully angry with the faa. We are but wallets to them
 
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You just sound sour. I would rather them release 140 people on the day they say they are going to and fix any issues out later instead of having an indefinitely delayed panel and then no one leave. Of course there were issues, but this scorched earth mentality is a bad look.

So, no public accountability to the workforce? What facility are you a supervisor at

It wasn’t an oversight. It wasn’t an accident, it was the agency trying to play fuck fuck games with the rules they agreed to. They have the ability to withdraw from the ncept agreement at any time. If they are unhappy with the rules they can seek to renegotiate it, or they can throw it out. They can’t make up changes on the fly and refuse to abide by the agreements they signed. It’s not about 1 person or 13. It’s about the integrity of the process. After this, I don’t think anyone can argue there is any integrity left.
 
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This is a terrible example. They just got downgraded from a Level 7 up/down to a 4 tower only. Of course they had extra bodies to lose.
Pretty sure they 804’d with CLE a couple years ago and were officially downgraded recently. I don’t see how the official downgrade would have anything to do with having extra bodies since it’s been that long since they sent people over.
 
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it never should have been allowed to happen, and if natca wasn’t about sucking that faa dick they would have let everyone know how the faa was trying to fuck the workforce. But they didn’t, they feel they are above communicating with us worthless dues payers. God forbid we get rightfully angry with the faa. We are but wallets to them
Don’t worry he’s the NCEPT white knight. On brand for him to defend it.
 
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it never should have been allowed to happen, and if natca wasn’t about sucking that faa dick they would have let everyone know how the faa was trying to fuck the workforce. But they didn’t, they feel they are above communicating with us worthless dues payers. God forbid we get rightfully angry with the faa. We are but wallets to them
Yes you’re correct that it shouldn’t have happened. But there are many roadblocks in NATCAs way when it comes to staffing collaboration. The foundational issue is the agency has all the rights here and they don’t seem to even know how bad the staffing really is in many of these red facilities. They’re way too scaled up. And they grossly underestimate their attrition projections every year and therefore aren’t hiring enough. But they think they are. They also think ERRs from green buildings to red buildings are contributing to the staffing problems. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

3.1.5. The NCEPT AJT management official will be designated as the deciding/approving official for ERR placements/Mutual Reassignment Transfer Requests and utilization of MPP bids for bargaining unit positions.

Don’t worry he’s the NCEPT white knight. On brand for him to defend it.
I would never defend such a gross misuse of that position.
 
So, no public accountability to the workforce? What facility are you a supervisor at

It wasn’t an oversight. It wasn’t an accident, it was the agency trying to play fuck fuck games with the rules they agreed to. They have the ability to withdraw from the ncept agreement at any time. If they are unhappy with the rules they can seek to renegotiate it, or they can throw it out. They can’t make up changes on the fly and refuse to abide by the agreements they signed. It’s not about 1 person or 13. It’s about the integrity of the process. After this, I don’t think anyone can argue there is any integrity left.
In what fucking world does your employer do public accountability.
 
On a different note, is anyone aware of any sort of waiver for the NCEPT cat I release date? The rules are 3 months, up to 6 at employees request, but there’s talks about some potential waiver due to military/fmla leave for a release date 9 months out. Is this within the agency’s rights given the published rules? Is this the gross extrapolation of “Dynamic Decisions”??
 
On a different note, is anyone aware of any sort of waiver for the NCEPT cat I release date? The rules are 3 months, up to 6 at employees request, but there’s talks about some potential waiver due to military/fmla leave for a release date 9 months out. Is this within the agency’s rights given the published rules? Is this the gross extrapolation of “Dynamic Decisions”??
That's weird. Why should they care what side the leave is taken on or what kind of leave it is?
 
On a different note, is anyone aware of any sort of waiver for the NCEPT cat I release date? The rules are 3 months, up to 6 at employees request, but there’s talks about some potential waiver due to military/fmla leave for a release date 9 months out. Is this within the agency’s rights given the published rules? Is this the gross extrapolation of “Dynamic Decisions”??
It’s in the National release policy MOU. Needs a deviation approval from vp/ATS or COO to hold them passed 3 months
 
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