New time off between shifts mandate. Big change

[Cocoatc]

The issue with this is your only eligible to work OT on your first rdo

Or double mids starting on your second RDO

 

[HurryUpandWait]

Somewhat powerful is a stretch...

Ha, I tried!

But seriously Santa still speaks before Congress and the Senate, media stronghold when they want to utilize it, etc.

We all know it can better but we all know it could be a lot worse.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Ha, I tried!

But seriously Santa still speaks before Congress and the Senate, media stronghold when they want to utilize it, etc.

We all know it can better but we all know it could be a lot worse.

Haha, sorry I could not read that sentence with a straight face. True and I agree, they need to leverage the media and the pilots union. A coordinated media campaign is something the Union has been missing for years.

 

[Kramer]

Absolutely not. That is not what I bid and not a schedule I would ever accept. I have zero issue with the rattler and get appropriate sleep for myself.

When you bid your only entitled to your rdos. This is true 99% of the time

 

[Kramer]

Or double mids starting on your second RDO

That would suck. If you Fri/sat like me then go in Fri night get off Saturday morning. And back Saturday night for my first shift of the week.

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

Weren't Santa supporters saying that he supposedly has a good/personal connection with Whittaker? And now NATCA is saying they were notified of this moments before it was released? 🤣

Interesting to see if this will make Team NDJH say they need to tear down a second wall in the NATCA offices. Slate Book extension to 2049 with FAA-only unilateral reopener confirmed! 🤣

Help us, jdatc , you're our only hope.

 

[Cocoatc]

That would suck. If you Fri/sat like me then go in Fri night get off Saturday morning. And back Saturday night for my first shift of the week.

0 days when you aren't physically in the facility....

 

[ClearanceClarence]

For facilities on 6 day work weeks this means first shift back has to be a mid, and that the OT would have to be your first RDO, which means you really have 0 days of the week you're not in the facility. (Given that the last 2hrs of 2nd RDO will be the start of your mid shift). Or start the week with double mids with OT mid on the 2nd RDO. And 1st RDO loses 2hrs to the mid.

Heads gonna roll

This would be the final straw for a lot of people if they actually tried this. You’d see mass resignations at all facilities and the NAS would grind to a halt.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

Haha, sorry I could not read that sentence with a straight face. True and I agree, they need to leverage the media and the pilots union. A coordinated media campaign is something the Union has been missing for years.

I knew what I was doing when I typed it 😛

 

[Flashy Vectors]

We need to dissolve this union and restart like tech ops.

 

[32andBelow]

I wonder how many eligible people will just dip. They hate change the most.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

I wonder how many eligible people will just dip. They hate change the most.

If people are still forced to work 6 day work weeks and start the week with a mid, you’ll see people outright quit. Many people.

 

[rugbydog11]

Depending on staffing levels, but could open up for a 2/3 weeks of days, 2/3 weeks of eves, week of mids type schedule

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

Look on the bright side: with 12 hours before working a mid you can drink The first 4 of those 12 hours!

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Depending on staffing levels, but could open up for a 2/3 weeks of days, 2/3 weeks of eves, week of mids type schedule

Senior people won’t go for that.

 

[CoffeeIV]

For facilities on 6 day work weeks this means first shift back has to be a mid, and that the OT would have to be your first RDO, which means you really have 0 days of the week you're not in the facility. (Given that the last 2hrs of 2nd RDO will be the start of your mid shift). Or start the week with double mids with OT mid on the 2nd RDO. And 1st RDO loses 2hrs to the mid.

Heads gonna roll

Not only first rdo is OT but that it can only be a day shift. Can't be swings due to the 30 consecutive hours off in 7 days.

Staffing about to be all kinds of fucked up.

 

[theflyingpig]

If this isn’t a reason to not extend the contract, then I don’t know what is

 

[ClearanceClarence]

The ONLY acceptable response for NATCA to bring to the agency at this point is that this decision will have a ripple effect on many aspects of the job already covered by the CBA, and so the only option is to open the Slate Book for negotiations. Period.

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

The ONLY acceptable response for NATCA, if they're truly a competent and functional union, to bring to the agency at this point is that this decision will have a ripple effect on many aspects of the job already covered by the CBA, and so the only option is to open the Slate Book for negotiations. Period.

FTFY

 

[Cocoatc]

Long and short of it is Whitaker done gone lost his mind. He clearly hasn't thought through the consequences of this mandate and it will likely be rolled back in some form until they manage to figure out a different solution