About as confident as Houston or Miami Center going to a 12?
Local folks here are still confident about the chances, but then again ZMA was probably confident until they got their news.
About as confident as Houston or Miami Center going to a 12?
Lol that's the spirit... Spread the hate!You know, it’s not like getting picked up is that awesome. I’ve got to deal with moving now, and that’s a big PITA. This raise is gonna change my taxes too, ugh. Might have to start driving Uber while I’m in training too....
You know, it’s not like getting picked up is that awesome. I’ve got to deal with moving now, and that’s a big PITA. This raise is gonna change my taxes too, ugh. Might have to start driving Uber while I’m in training too....
You know, it’s not like getting picked up is that awesome. I’ve got to deal with moving now, and that’s a big PITA. This raise is gonna change my taxes too, ugh. Might have to start driving Uber while I’m in training too....
You know, it’s not like getting picked up is that awesome. I’ve got to deal with moving now, and that’s a big PITA. This raise is gonna change my taxes too, ugh. Might have to start driving Uber while I’m in training too....
It’s that an obvious troll? Everyone can’t resist feeding them I guessDon't worry, you'll get to your new facility and realize that it's pretty fucked up but think that you can handle it. About a year later you'll realize you can't but it will be too late to get out and you'll be stuck there, more miserable than you ever were at your first facility.
Hey, I think it's time we start publicly posting manager rankings. Anyone else want to start holding them accountable for the selections they make?
Decent idea but remember in most facilities it’s the NATCA ranking list so neither side would ever go for that. Plus it would raise too many questions when a 4 months CPC at a level 5 tower who is a nephew of a 25 year veteran and ZXX shows up as #1 on the ranking list when the seven year CPC from a level 8 up/down rates much lower.Hey, I think it's time we start publicly posting manager rankings. Anyone else want to start holding them accountable for the selections they make?
"Most" is an unprovable opinion.Decent idea but remember in most facilities it’s the NATCA ranking list so neither side would ever go for that. Plus it would raise too many questions when a 4 months CPC at a level 5 tower who is a nephew of a 25 year veteran and ZXX shows up as #1 on the ranking list when the seven year CPC from a level 8 up/down rates much lower.
Plus it would raise too many questions when a 4 months CPC at a level 5 tower who is a nephew of a 25 year veteran and ZXX shows up as #1 on the ranking list when the seven year CPC from a level 8 up/down rates much lower.
You cannot hold them accountable. There is no rule that states what they must hire. They don’t even have us add up the points on the rating of ATC experience.
Decent idea but remember in most facilities it’s the NATCA ranking list so neither side would ever go for that. Plus it would raise too many questions when a 4 months CPC at a level 5 tower who is a nephew of a 25 year veteran and ZXX shows up as #1 on the ranking list when the seven year CPC from a level 8 up/down rates much lower.
Oh I totally understand they aren't obligated to rank people in any certain way. I'm just saying that if they're essentially ranking people in reverse order of experience, or ranking their friends and family ahead of everyone else, or ranking all white people before any black people, it's important to let people know that. It's important to show that behavior to the workforce.
That's not a NATCA thing, that's just a "some people" thing. And its actually one of the many reasons they changed the ERRs program because there were certain enroute facilities that wouldn't pull lists to fill staffing because they knew they just keep getting academy grads to back fill and then everyone gets to keep seniority.One thing I've found is NATCA prefers the "4 month CPC from a Level 5" to the "8 year CPC from a 9" because they get to keep their seniority and schedule they want. (And maybe being an 8 year CPC at a 9 doesn't make you a better controller than being a 4 month CPC from a 5 and they know that too)
Definitely fair and I should've worded it betterThat's not a NATCA thing, that's just a "some people" thing. And its actually one of the many reasons they changed the ERRs program because there were certain enroute facilities that wouldn't pull lists to fill staffing because they knew they just keep getting academy grads to back fill and then everyone gets to keep seniority.
All I gather from this is that you have a .01% chance in transferring facilities unless you know someone. Sounds thrilling