November (Q1) 2024

[S.T.O.P.]

Will the facilities that need double digit gains only pick up BUEs from facilities eligible to release?

yeah

MOU's pick up from everyone with paperwork in regardless of releasability

 

[HurryUpandWait]

yeah

MOU's pick up from everyone with paperwork in regardless of releasability

Dumb

 

[S.T.O.P.]

Dumb

Hopefully the MOUs go away or they let facilities pick up to at least 100% projected (if not an 8 or 9)

What do you think is likely to happen first? 💀

 

[Balls2/H]

Is there a link for the MOU? Would like to read it. I got an ERR to D10 but my facility can’t release

D10 is not on the priority release MOU. Your facility must be 85% or higher for you to be released there. Only facilities that can circumvent the 85% rule are A80/C90/N90/MIA/PHL and ZOA

 

[HurryUpandWait]

Hopefully the MOUs go away or they let facilities pick up to at least 100% projected (if not an 8 or 9)

What do you think is likely to happen first? 💀

They need to change a lot with NCEPT. At this point get rid of it and only do bids.

 

[SquawkHijack]

They need to change a lot with NCEPT. At this point get rid of it and only do bids.

I’d be fine with going back to the old system. It had its flaws but there was movement and it let those who deserved to move do so.

We all have shit staffing as it is so what would it hurt? 😅

 

[32andBelow]

I’d be fine with going back to the old system. It had its flaws but there was movement and it let those who deserved to move do so.

We all have shit staffing as it is so what would it hurt? 😅

I feel like the old system forces them to make better offers with move money and limited bids where you go somewhere for 5 years then get to leave.

 

[Soul_Controller]

I feel like the old system forces them to make better offers with move money and limited bids where you go somewhere for 5 years then get to leave

They should make bids exempt from the national release policy. But have something like no nest for withdrawals or washouts, only back to your old facility.

 

[Move78]

I feel like the old system forces them to make better offers with move money and limited bids where you go somewhere for 5 years then get to leave.

I feel like you don’t know whatTF you’re talking about ever

 

[32andBelow]

I feel like you don’t know whatTF you’re talking about ever

Ok

 

[Wizard]

I feel like you don’t know whatTF you’re talking about ever

Remember his username is talking about his IQ

 

[32andBelow]

Remember his username is talking about his IQ

Very funny

 

[Spoony90]

Very funny

I’m curious. What’s the meaning behind your user name? Genuinely curious. Cause I think of 32 degrees and below. Like freezing temps. I also think of the beers at twin peaks 😂

 

[32andBelow]

I’m curious. What’s the meaning behind your user name? Genuinely curious. Cause I think of 32 degrees and below. Like freezing temps. I also think of the beers at twin peaks 😂

It’s my IQ

No it’s snow

 

[SquawkHijack]

I feel like the old system forces them to make better offers with move money and limited bids where you go somewhere for 5 years then get to leave.

That’s true, limited or temp bids could make harder to staff facilities like the ones on the priority release MOU more of a revolving door.

I kinda liked when ATMs had the power to cut you a TOL if they really wanted you and figure out a release date with your manager. It was the bad apples that knew their reputation wouldn’t get them anywhere. There’s more to that but it would be a breath of fresh air to see something of the like.

 

[SquawkHijack]

They should make bids exempt from the national release policy. But have something like no nest for withdrawals or washouts, only back to your old facility.

I actually really like this. It would be a decent bargaining chip if that were to ever come up for negotiation and really wouldn’t be much of a loss for anyone.

 

[SquawkHijack]

I feel like you don’t know whatTF you’re talking about ever

Ya know, 32 and I don’t get along politically, and probably never will. But, I will put credit where it’s due, he has had a lot of good ideas when it comes to staffing and movement which is arguably the biggest issue we all face right now. That being followed closely by pay.

 

[Dolan]

We all have shit staffing as it is so what would it hurt? 😅

I feel like people forget what the old system was like. You could still transfer out of a poorly staffed facility.

Yeah it was often a year or sometimes two to get out but you could move no matter what if you got the receiving ATM to work to get you. I don't think the FAA would ever go back seeing how much movement has gotten restricted.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

I feel like people forget what the old system was like. You could still transfer out of a poorly staffed facility.

Yeah it was often a year or sometimes two to get out but you could move no matter what if you got the receiving ATM to work to get you. I don't think the FAA would ever go back seeing how much movement has gotten restricted.

And we all just voted in the one who is responsible for ncept on the NATCA side…

 

[32andBelow]

And we all just voted in the one who is responsible for ncept on the NATCA side…

Seems like a theme around here