May (Q3) 2023

[HoodyMerganser]

Ok Question. If a facility is at 85% current CPC to target, and has a projected ATCS inbound bringing the projected % to 86ish% that facility should release on the panel correct? Or is it not in effect until the inbound is actually in facility.

 

[Phanatical]

Ok Question. If a facility is at 85% current CPC to target, and has a projected ATCS inbound bringing the projected % to 86ish% that facility should release on the panel correct? Or is it not in effect until the inbound is actually in facility.

No one knows until the rules come out

 

[bravounite33]

Ok Question. If a facility is at 85% current CPC to target, and has a projected ATCS inbound bringing the projected % to 86ish% that facility should release on the panel correct? Or is it not in effect until the inbound is actually in facility.

You would be a Cat 2 facility per the release MOU unless the rules for this panel changes the %'s needed. For Cat 1, your current CPC AND projected CPC must be above 90%. For Cat 2, your current CPC AND projected CPC must be above the national average. The current CPC national number is 80.8% and the national projected is 83.7%.
However, the rules for each panel usually amend those so we don't know until these rules come out.

 

[Move78]

You would be a Cat 2 facility per the release MOU unless the rules for this panel changes the %'s needed. For Cat 1, your current CPC AND projected CPC must be above 90%. For Cat 2, your current CPC AND projected CPC must be above the national average. The current CPC national number is 80.8% and the national projected is 83.7%.
However, the rules for each panel usually amend those so we don't know until these rules come out.

This is original NRP language from 2016. It’s been amended a few times since. Current cat 2 is at or above 85% for both AOB and projected.

 

[Jake Sully]

Some of the categories on the ppt look incorrect based on those percentages

 

[CoffeeIV]

Does the facility only pick up to national average or to target?

 

[tylertrend]

Does the facility only pick up to national average or to target?

National Average

 

[Phanatical]

Does the facility only pick up to national average or to target?

National Average

No one knows until the rules come out

 

[stanleyoreo]

Heard there’s some rules released with big changes. Anyone confirm?

 

[Daveybags]

Heard there’s some rules released with big changes. Anyone confirm?

You goin nowhere

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Since when do we email out the rules??? I just got them. Facilities now make one pick at a time... draft style. After all available selecting facilities make a pick then it starts over with facility number one picking a second person.

***there will be an explanation of changes sheet coming out later today...*** per the email

 

[32andBelow]

Since when do we email out the rules??? I just got them. Facilities now make one pick at a time... draft style. After all available selecting facilities make a pick then it starts over with facility number one picking a second person.

***there will be an explanation of changes sheet coming out later today...*** per the email

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

 

[Phanatical]

"The upcoming May 22 NCEPT panel will change how we conduct selections. As staffing has decreased in the NAS, there are many more facilities with vacancies to select ERRs, but they are picking from a much smaller pool of Possible Losses. Just one year ago, in May 2022, the PPT for that month had 299 Possible Losses (losses available from facilities at or above 85% Current and Projected Staffing, the threshold to release according to the most recent NRP) to fill 2596 Possible Gains to Target (vacancies). Fast forward to our most current staffing and we have 134 Possible Losses to fill 3519 vacancies. While the Union works with the agency on hiring and training, the NCEPT team is always looking to maximize movement from facilities that are healthy into those that need help.

For those unfamiliar, previous NCEPT panels were run with the selection following the Decision Lens (Facility Priority List) order. Each facility selected until they either ran out of available ERRs or met the selection target/threshold. However, with so few possible losses available, the top facilities on the decision lens fill up with a disproportionate share of the total selections. Continuing down the Decision Lens order, many facilities ended up without a selection because all of their available ERRs were from facilities that could no longer be released. This results in fewer total moves and a disproportionate distribution of ERR selections.

Recognizing that many facilities have staffing needs, and wanting to maximize the amount of possible ERRs selected from the Possible Losses, the Parties decided to change the process so that a facility only makes one (1) selection at a time before the panel continues down the decision lens order. This will cycle back to the top after all facilities have made their first available pick and continue until there are no more possible moves. For example, a facility will no longer make selections once they have reached 100% projected or there are no eligible ERRs to select. This will more evenly distribute the ERRs throughout the NAS, and also maximize the number of selections that can be made from the Possible Losses available."

MJ this is good FAQ material

 

[Acquired Taste]

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That's wild. I always thought it could make some sense to do it that way but the way they're doing it seems dumb. Like places at the top like SCT and A80 are only gonna get 1 body while a place like FTW gets a body too from someone just trying to get back to Dallas. Then by the time we get to the second round, nearly all the releases will be exhausted and the draft will be pretty much over. Gonna be hard to staff A80 and SCT with 1 (2 if they're really lucky) people every 3 months.

What would make more sense is to do a draft based on the National Terminal List. Round 1 should be Level 8s-12s. It would give the big facilities that are hurting a good shot at landing some people but also would make is pretty fair for the facility that didn't win the Facility Status and Priority lottery to be ranked number 1 that month in the draft order.

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Going to suck for any couples trying to go someplace together.

 

[twn]

So you're telling me only 134 people across the nas are eligible to move this ncept?

 

[32andBelow]

Idk why they don’t organize direct swaps to get people moving. If it’s. Two centers and if the areas can handle it why would you prevent that. You can organize the best time of the year to make the swap based on traffic or whatever.

 

[Phanatical]

NCEPT Facility Lists:

Green = Releasing Facilities
Purple = Gaining and Releasing Facilities
Red = Gaining Facilities
Black = Not Eligible

 

[Move78]

That's wild. I always thought it could make some sense to do it that way but the way it sounds seems dumb. Like places at the top like SCT and A80 are only gonna get 1 body while a place like FTW gets a body too from someone just trying to get back to Dallas. Then by the time we get to the second round, nearly all the releases will be exhausted and the draft will be pretty much over. Gonna be hard to staff A80 and SCT with 1 (2 if they're really lucky) people every 3 months.

What would make more sense is to do a draft based on the National Terminal List. Round 1 should be Level 8s-12s. It would give the big facilities that are hurting a good shot at landing some people but also would make is pretty fair for the facility that didn't win the Facility Status and Priority lottery to be ranked number 1 that month in the draft order.

They’ll get more than 1. But now the facility drafting 60th won’t get 0 for the 8th time in a row.