November (Q1) 2024

[CaptainObvious]

 

[CaptainObvious]

Looks like NCEPT has great reviews, don’t know what you guys are whining about all the time

 

[Foppery&Whim]

How it started before selections:

How it's going after this week:

 

[Phanatical]

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Is that why my ass is out of alignment?

 

[AB19]

Is that why my ass is out of alignment?

Mercury is in retrograde that's why

 

[ChuckNovember]

What people have to realize about staffing numbers, are they aren’t *just* to run the operation.

They are to accomplish things like recurrent training, safety briefings, CBI’s, proper training pre-briefs and de-briefs, SET, actual crew breakouts, etcetera.

I started in the agency over 20 years ago, this whole time actual controller bodies in the seats numbers have done nothing but decrease to the point where we almost never can make our numbers. And if we lose one to sick leave or anything else, we are below.

Now, we always make it work; and it isn’t too painful but just imagine if we had 100% staffing across the NAS what we could get done?

I also would bet that our quality of life would go up, since the ability for spot leave might re-appear and then we could even legitimately release people on article 114 workgroups with no adverse effects to a facility. More schedule options! Briefings, actual crew breakouts, real discussions on operations!

Oh, but to dream. We won’t see good staffing in what’s left of my career (less than 5 years) but if we actually steer the ship we might see it in yours.

That's fine, but not letting people transfer until we can have team briefings every week and get CBIs done earlier in the month is ridiculous, especially after shrugging our shoulders at a terrible placement process for the last eight years. Look no further than ZOB/ZLC to see that the CRWG numbers are completely pulled out of a hat. ZTL works ~ a million more aircraft than ZOB per year and yet somehow they both need 345 controllers? Please. I'm all for boosting our numbers but not at the expense of our workforce.

 

[CaptainObvious]

That's fine, but not letting people transfer until we can have team briefings every week and get CBIs done earlier in the month is ridiculous, especially after shrugging our shoulders at a terrible placement process for the last eight years. Look no further than ZOB/ZLC to see that the CRWG numbers are completely pulled out of a hat. ZTL works ~ a million more aircraft than ZOB per year and yet somehow they both need 345 controllers? Please. I'm all for boosting our numbers but not at the expense of our workforce.

And ZDV has run ~50k less than ZOB and they’re a 10 with 100 less on the staffing number

 

[Vistar1]

The panel convenes today to run the list. Does it get published right away on ksn or do we have to wait until tomorrow?

 

[boilergirl87]

The panel convenes today to run the list. Does it get published right away on ksn or do we have to wait until tomorrow?

Usually at 12pm E.T. the next day I believe.

 

[CS22]

Usually at 12pm E.T. the next day I believe.

People with connections need the chance to game it first.

 

[abc1234]

I feel like it's been surprisingly quiet around here compared to previous panels. Has everyone just given up their hopes and dreams of transferring?

 

[MJ]

I feel like it's been surprisingly quiet around here compared to previous panels. Has everyone just given up their hopes and dreams of transferring?

Everyone is happy and there are no complaints. The system works!

 

[GT91]

Who’s ready for all the fake links to the list today?

 

[ClimbAndMaintain]

 

[HappyController]

We waiting till Monday on results?

 

[HappyController]

lol list is up and it’s from last quarter haha

 

[ClimbAndMaintain]

We waiting till Monday on results?

they just uploaded it..... its the wrong list lmao

 

[CoffeeIV]

Did someone mess up on the NATCA website lol... you click the "November 16th Selections List" and it loads last panels list.

Ive tried several variations of the list URL that theyve used in the past and still cant get it 🙁

 

[Foppery&Whim]

Even our own union trolling us.

 

[Tater_Toad]

Correct list is posted on ksn